Pastor Barnett speaks with love,
concern, humility and purpose.
Posted by Don Barnett on 2/3/2003, 5:30 pm
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It
is a grief to me and those in my church (and God) to see that the
website that Dave Kennedy has so graciously made available (to be of
benefit) has become a chatroom for those (who are allowing demons to
keep them agitated, years without end) to come together and sin! They
continually run down a pastor who is deeply in love with the Lord and
who is working diligently: helping people keep the vision and come out
of the world, hang up on the devil, to forgive, be humble, sweet,
forgiving, Christ-like and a blessing to one another. God is using me
to heal the sick, encourage, counsel, pray for the needy, help those in
desperate need to meet their expenses, and keep them encouraged and
with a good conscience before the Lord!
Weekly, I'm loving the saints with God's love and being a blessing to
them in many ways, having fantastic times in spiritual worship,
bringing in-depth, revelatory sermons and practical spiritual sermons
(all loved by the church) [they are so loving and appreciative]; but
Bob Sackett, Lanny and others are joining in to accuse, judge,
talebear, gossip, blame, falsely assume, repeat hearsay, bear false
witness, judge motives, sow strife, pick, spread forgiven sins,
exaggerate, slander, speak evil and do their best to injure my
reputation, and to sin against God!
The Bible clearly forbids all these things that they are doing – and
they know it! But do they care what God's Word says? Obviously not!
While God is blessing me and my flock and is getting ready to expand
our ministry, the devil is scared because what God promised at the
Chapel and in my church WILL happen, because with God nothing is
impossible and God does not lie!
So, demons are looking for open doors (hurt saints, etc.) to poison
potential saints that God wants to restore! If God moves wonderfully
(as promised) and some poisoned saints don't join the upcoming revival
– and maybe even fall away and miss the Latter Rain, Feast of
Tabernacles, fruit harvest, and the Rapture; guess who has aided the
devil and guess whose heads their blood will be upon?
So, instead of Christians refusing to forgive one another and fighting
among themselves (because they haven't put the spirits on trial – 1
John 4:1), and helping demons divide and conquer, why don't we all
stand TOGETHER against the devil?
Why don't we all decide to believe in God's grace and forgiveness? If
Jesus came not to condemn, but to save; why don't we do the same?
Wouldn't it be better if everyone laid down their pride, self-god
spirit, condemning and judgmentalness, and be as becometh saints?
· Is criticalness acceptable with God?
· Is unforgiveness acceptable with God?
· If a man is besieged month after month by false accusers who
have "hear say" but no proof, does he not have a right to properly and
with a good spirit defend himself?
· Don't his loved ones have a right to testify of how God is
using him, or do only accusers have rights?
· If a person is partly guilty, doesn't he have a right to
repent for that part and clear the air of lies hurled at him?
· If a person deeply repents and apologized to his church and
both forgive him, doesn't he have a right to walk in peace, guilt-free
or does he have to live in emotional remorse the rest of his life?
· Are the accusers without sin or are they being hypocrites?
These are the only options!
· Doesn't God's great blessing on one, year after year, clearly
show God's acceptance, (in spite of those who continually justify their
disobedience to God of not accepting those God forgives)?
These are all questions between you and God.
And don't I have as much right to recite God's principles as those who
use the website to injure another's reputation, spread his sins, as
well as whatever comes into his mind (accusing without proof)?
And with this, I leave the website, although I could easily refute the
boat-load of lies told on it, against me! How would you like others to
lie about you on the Internet, for years? How godly would you fancy
them to be?
One last warning: one person in my church saw (in a vision) Bob and
Margaret in a casket; another saw Bob go over a bluff and prayed for
him, etc., they had better be careful! God says, "Touch not mine
anointed!" I could say a lot more, but I forbear!
I would be happy to forgive all of my accusers, but remember – God
forgives no one who refuses to repent; and those who justify their
sins, never repent!
I am a man of peace; I suggest you be likeminded, and please God. And,
lest I be misunderstood by those who always seem to see others in the
worst light possible, I am writing all this humbly; not in a
high-minded spirit.
Seek restoration! As for me, I'm signing off this website for why
should I subject myself to malicious spirits? I can't be hurt by what I
don't read. If there is not a change of attitude on this website, I
hope Dave Kennedy closes it down, for why should he provide that which
grieves the Holy Spirit of God?
Walk in the light and not in darkness, lest darkness overtake you,
unawares! Satan is the accuser of the brethren and is not he in
darkness?
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Re: Pastor
Barnett speaks with love, concern, humility and purpose.
Posted by Author Richard Kelsey on 2/3/2003, 5:52 pm, in reply to "Pastor Barnett speaks with love, concern, humility and
purpose."
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Don said, "And with this, I leave the
website, although I could easily refute the boat-load of lies told on
it, against me!"
That's easy. I never wanted to imply that Don may have have not been
truthful in an earlier post! I was very concerned. Because I was
implying Don may have lied to us?
But I was also hoping that he would give an answer, showing that he did
not lie to us in his last post!
Instead we get this. What am I to think?
Don, what a cop out!
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Re: Pastor
Barnett speaks with love, concern, humility and purpose.
Posted by Author Richard Kelsey on 2/3/2003, 6:16 pm, in reply to "Pastor Barnett speaks with love, concern, humility and
purpose."
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One more thing.
If I was you, and I could so, "easily refute the boat load of lies told
on it, against me!"
Wouldn't I rather do that; if it was that "easy" to do? Unless this is
another lie? Why NOT give us an answer? Why run?
This sounds like a bad excuse—or in other words: another lie!!!!!
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Re: Pastor
Barnett speaks with love, concern, humility and purpose.
Posted by Harry on 2/4/2003, 6:30 am, in reply to "Re: Pastor Barnett speaks with love, concern, humility
and purpose."
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Hey Richard. Don't you consider calling
someone a lier (repeatedly) in a public forum a little over the top.
Do you have any decorum in your bag of tricks?
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Dear Harry
Posted by Richard Kelsey on 2/4/2003, 7:08 am, in reply to "Re: Pastor Barnett speaks with love, concern, humility
and purpose."
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Thank you for the admonition. How would you
have had me address the question? My question is "what are the
boat-load of lies that who has been spreading about Don on this board?"
That Don is speaking of.
Maybe you could clear this up for me? In the meantime I will take your
admonition to heart.
Thank you, again.
Rich
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Back to you Rich
Posted by Harry on 2/4/2003, 9:30 pm, in reply to "Dear Harry"
63.226.196.69
I'm not going to tell you how to phrase
things or what question to ask. All I know is that "decorum" allows two
people diametrically opposed to one another (ie. Republican/Democrat)
to carry on a civil public discourse.
You've heard it before ".... will the distinguished gentleman from
Alabama please give way" They may hate each others guts - but it works.
And if they being in the world can do it how much more us?
Basically where I grew up if someone calls you a liar - you punch him
in the nose first and ask why later.
Cheers.
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You have got to
get professional help Don, sooner rather than later. n/t
Posted by Lou on 2/3/2003, 6:25 pm, in reply to "Pastor Barnett speaks with love, concern, humility and
purpose."
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Regretfully I
must say.....
Posted by Gordy on 2/3/2003, 6:27 pm, in reply to "Pastor Barnett speaks with love, concern, humility and
purpose."
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I understand the frustration Don must be
experiencing over the years regarding his failures being broadcast on
the internet. I really do. This post still shows absolutely no remorse
over the damage he has caused to hundreds of people that so unselfishly
supported his ministry for years.
I didn't make mention of it on this board but last week I was released
from the burden of prayer I had for Don over the last 6 years. I can't
explain how I knew in detail but I knew the time allotted for my
involvement was over as far as how the Spirit has been goading me. That
does not mean I won't continue to pray for Don but it is not a
"requirement" any longer. I don't really know what that means as the
goading has been nearly constant. I didn't post it purposely. Although
I fully knew when I was released I felt it wasn't appropriate to post
it on the board at that time.
I don't have all this figured out right now but this latest post has
made it clear to me Don doesn't have a clue or he is ignoring the
facts. Either way, it involves deception and I wash my hands of it. I
guess he has announced this is the end of his posting. Maybe that has
something to do with the release I experienced.
I am not saying I believe God is washing His hands of the matter only
that I have been released from the burden (it wasn't a negative burden)
of prayer.
Don, I really hope a day comes when you can experience the blessings
and fruit of repentance, not just to God, but to your brothers and
sisters in Christ that you were the source of much damage and strife.
Many have forgiven you, (I have) but many need to hear it from you. If
you withhold asking for their forgiveness, life will go on and many
will find their way to healing as many already have. I suggest your
lack of repentance and asking THEIR forgiveness with no strings
attached will have a price. Your reference to asking for forgiveness in
front of your church as your defense and proof of your repentance is
balderdash. Those there are but a small fraction of those YOU offended.
You had an opportunity here to get it out to virtually everyone and all
you have done is make excuses, detailed how you are the victim, try and
spread fear. YOU were the offender too Don and the sooner you accept
and deal with it the better for those you have offended in the past and
those that still follow you.
I understand your frustration but your unwillingness to submit yourself
to your brethren in this matter is wrong, selfish and unscriptural.
From whence are those attributes my brother?
Gordy
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Re: Pastor
Barnett speaks with love, concern, humility and purpose.
Posted by Keith D. on 2/3/2003, 6:43 pm, in reply to "Pastor Barnett speaks with love, concern, humility and
purpose."
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It figures, more of the same. That wasn't a
warning from God to Bob and Margaret that was a demonic threat intended
to control and manipulate people with fear (sorry Don , God doesn't
work that way with saints that He loves, you are playing into the hands
of the devil by giving legitimacy to such demonic trash). The opposite
is true concerning this website and your desire that it is shut down;
the devil desires that the truth be shut up and that this board be shut
down. God is not nearly as limited as you make him, He will work and do
incredible things in the lives of anyone that in sincerity calls upon
his name.
So the pipe dream that spiritual connections are continues. You
couldn't find it within yourself to communicate with legitimate
brothers and sisters in the Lord, despite some differences (you
probably won't even read this)? No give and take, more isolation, more
post and run.
I appeal to the saints of CoA don't allow isolation and fear to keep
you from your brothers and sisters out here. Jesus is the shepherd that
deserves all of your trust, seek Him and ask Him to direct your path.
This is not to try to pit anyone against Don but rather to keep hearts
open, we are an intricate part of the body of Christ and we have vital
legitimacy in the eyes of the Lord, believe it or not. I will continue
to keep CoA in my prayers.
Keith
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Don, did you read
my post?
Posted by candy on 2/3/2003, 7:21 pm, in reply to "Pastor Barnett speaks with love, concern, humility and
purpose."
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I spoke to you with love, concern, humility
and purpose.
I welcomed your posts and acknowledged that there was room for you
here. I also acknowledged the other people here and their needs for
healing. I encouraged you to post again, and to respond to our posts.
Others have also been generous with you here. You can't expect everyone
to just agree with you. They sure don't all agree with me and I haven't
run away!
Many of us here care about you, even if we disagree with you. Why not
start out small by ignoring the folks that irk you and respond to some
posts that don't just set you off? This works for me.
Or you could start off by just giving an honest, simple and hearfelt
apology for the hurt you have caused. You feel you have done this but
we didn't hear it. It never hurts to do it again and it could be very
healing for many of us. Why not try it? What do you have to lose by
saying you are sorry?
You seem like you are just talking into the air, not to real whole
people, but I am talking to you just like I would any friend. Can you
see the difference?
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Re: Pastor
Barnett speaks with love, concern, humility and purpose.
Posted by Bob Sackett on 2/3/2003, 9:12 pm, in reply to "Pastor Barnett speaks with love, concern, humility and
purpose."
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DB said " God forgives no one who refuses
to repent; and those who justify their sins, never repent!"
I think DB just proved that he has not repented.
Bob
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Compare
Scriptures & Let God's Word Decide
Posted by Craig Bluemel on 2/3/2003, 9:47 pm, in reply to "Pastor Barnett speaks with love, concern, humility and
purpose."
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Here's a thought; compare the scriptures
with Don's message, and weigh everything in light of God's word. This
is true discernment, and a more sure word. Simply weigh what Don says,
and how he says it, and weigh it by scripture; that way God can lead
you and give you the discernment you seek and need. I love you all, and
offer this as a blessing.
I will continue praying for Don and COA, because the Lord Jesus has
commanded me to. We must not vent hatred towards this man, but pray
that God spares his soul! Consider the verse of scripture below:
Jude 23 [Strive to] save others, snatching [them] out of [the] fire; on
others take pity [but] with fear, loathing even the garment spotted
by the flesh and polluted by their sensuality. AMP
Don:" …God is using ME to heal the sick…Weekly, I'M
loving the saints with God's love…bringing in-depth,'REVELATORY'
sermons and practical spiritual sermons ALL loved by the
church)… they are SO appreciative"
- Bible: Matt 6:1 "Beware of practicing
your righteousness before men to be noticed by them.." NAS
- "I would be happy to forgive all of my accusers, BUT
remember –And with this, I leave the website…"
- Bible: Matt 23:3, 28 but do not do according to their deeds;
for they say things, and do not do them…Even so you too outwardly
appear righteous to men, but inwardly you are full of hypocrisy and
lawlessness." NAS
- "I am writing all this humbly; not in a high-minded
spirit Doesn't God's GREAT blessing on one, year after year,
clearly show God's acceptance?"
- Bible: 1 Cor 5:5-6 I have decided to deliver such a one to
Satan for the destruction of his flesh, that his spirit may be saved in
the day of the Lord Jesus. Your boasting is not good. Do you not know
that a little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough?
- NAS
- " …some poisoned saints don't join the upcoming
revival… guess who has aided the devil…I'm signing off this website for
why should I subject myself to malicious spirits?"
- Bible: Heb 12:15 See to it that no one comes short of the
grace of God; that no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble,
and by it many be defiled; NAS
- "…but Bob Sackett, Lanny and others… do they care what God's
Word says? Obviously not!
- Bible: Matt 7:3 "And why do you look at the speck that is in
your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?"
NAS
- "I am a man of peace; I suggest YOU be
likeminded!"
- Bible: Phil 2:3 Do nothing from selfishness or empty
conceit, but with humility of mind regard one another as more important
than yourselves; NASU
- "While God is blessing ME and MY flock…"
- Bible: Acts 20:29-30 "I know that after my departure savage
wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among
your own selves men will arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away
the disciples after them." NAS
- "If there is not a change of attitude on this website, I
hope Dave Kennedy closes it down…"
- Bible: James 3:14-16 But if you have bitter jealousy and
selfish ambition in your heart, do not be arrogant and so lie against
the truth. This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is
earthly, natural, demonic. For where jealousy and selfish ambition
exist, there is disorder and every evil thing. NAS
- "…One last warning: one person in my church saw (in a
vision) Bob and Margaret in a casket; another saw Bob go over a bluff
and prayed for him, etc., they had better be careful!
- Bible: 1 Cor 13:2 And if I have the gift of prophecy, and know
all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to
remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. NAS
- Remember, this should not be used to beat someone up but to
expose sin, and let God deal with each of us. God bless and keep you
all! Craig
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Re: Compare Scriptures
& Let God's Word Decide
Posted by Garren on 2/4/2003, 3:07 am, in reply to "Compare Scriptures & Let God's Word Decide"
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Mr. Bluemel
What an extraordinarily learned saint you are! I have watched your
posts carefully, without responding for fear of coming across
uneducated in the matters of Scripture, however your humble approach
and sweet disposition make even the newest person in the Lord
appreciate the depth of Scripture even more.I thank God for your
annointed ministry, as through Him you have given me hope that there is
indeed balance in Christianity. I have much respect for scripturally
sound people, and you just made my list of people to listen and learn
from!
Thanks for yielding,
In Christ
Garren
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Thank you for
holding back Don. I will as well!
Posted by Lou on 2/4/2003, 7:22 am, in reply to "Pastor Barnett speaks with love, concern, humility and
purpose."
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Regarding your restraint referencing the
Sackett's casket comment, I can only assume that you were referring to
the fact that each and everyone of us will one day be looking face up
from a casket.
Certainly you are not implying that God is going to see that they are
killed so that your name is ultimately cleared?
Due to certain basic board guidelines I am restraining myself as well.
But I will say that this type of outrageous usage of the Lord's good
and precious name goes beyond anything that I could ever have imagined.
I just will never understand how anyone in their right mind could
simultaneously insult other Christians and God Almighty Himself with
this type of evil, that contrary to your belief, has come straight from
the lowest Hell.
You are not a very nice man Don!
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I am flumaxed
Posted by Robbin on 2/4/2003, 7:25 am, in reply to "Pastor Barnett speaks with love, concern, humility and
purpose."
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I am truly practically in shock at this
third responsed from Don. There is no difference between this one and
the first two. Does he really think that these posts will woo us back?
I have such a jumble of thoughts and feelings that I can not seem to
make sense of them all. So I will only address one here...so please
bear with me.
I am a person who is greatly affected by other's hurts. My mother has
told me that as a child I ALWAYS took the side of the underdog. One of
my elementary school mates were very poor and could not afford mittens
in the winter. His hands were cracking from the cold Montana winter. I
gave that boy my mittens.
Growing up on a farm I dealt with many sick or injured animals. I
learned how to move and speak quietly and soothingly around them. My
mom said that I had a way with animals. Later on in my Christian walk
the Lord showed me that dealing with injured animals (because they are
easily frightened and very wary) was my schooling for dealing with
injured Saints.
When I see someone that my actions have injured, whether I was
justified in what I did or not, my first concern was for that person
and their injury. EVEN if I was FULLY correct in what I did, I would go
and apologize to them...because I didn't want them to remain injured.
MY care and concern was for those I injured...not for making sure they
knew how right I was in what I did and how wrong they were for being
injured.
I read Don's three posts here and unfortunately I see just the opposite
demonstrated by one who CLAIMS to have a heart of concern for us
"sheepies".
To me, his posts appear to be full of self-justification defended by
condemnation, guilt and the ever-present threat that we will "miss
out".
Frankly, I do not see the heart of God displayed towards them that are
meek and terribly injured. He is more content with petting and feeding
the "99" within his walls than he is in the many many injured "1"s
OUTSIDE his walls.
He is apparently much more concerned with his reputation than he is
with the injured.
Over the years Don has used different Latter Rain revivalists in his
teaching material. The main gist being that the examples he used
eventually went astray. But God continued to annoint their ministries
BECAUSE the people under these ministries SO needed God. God's
annointing was not a sign that He showed his favor towards the
minister, but rather towards the people that were so in need and that
GOD loved.
I venture to say, that this is possibly the same case with Don. There
are many at COA who are needy in many ways, and God desires to meet
their needs. For this reason God uses Don, but this in not necessarily
proof that God is favoring Don.
I stop short at saying that Don is lost for eternity. I do believe that
he loves the Lord. But I see a very calloused heart toward those who
have been greatly injured...both inside and outside the walls of COA.
I'll end with this.
I would have absolutely NO problem taking my injuries to Jesus. But I
could NEVER take them to Don.
I hope this makes some sense.
Robbin
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To Robbin:
Posted by Lou on 2/4/2003, 7:52 am, in reply to "I am flumaxed"
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Blessed are the meek for they shall
inherit the earth...you will be one of them Robbin!
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Re: To Lou:
Posted by Robbin on 2/4/2003, 8:30 am, in reply to "To Robbin:"
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I'll be standing right next to you, Lou!
Thank you, wonderful brother!
Robbin
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THE CASKET
Posted by Bob Sackett on 2/4/2003, 8:39 am, in reply to "Pastor Barnett speaks with love, concern, humility and
purpose."
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What DB means is God is going to smit me
dead because I said something against his chosen anointed one DB. DB is
saying that is what happeened to Chris Matthews when he said things
against DB.
It was very good that DB posted because one can see how he really is.
To the people at COA he shows one side to others he destroys with his
wickedness.
Like I said DB is finished, COA will die out, there will be no big
super duper ministry for them. God will not be mocked, no one can get
away with what DB has done. To say God is still with me and be a Crook
and sexual preditor is pretty bad.
Bob
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Re: THE CASKET
Posted by carolyn on 2/4/2003, 8:48 am, in reply to "THE CASKET"
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What is scary Bob, is that even after
reading that post by DB, UNK thought he was right on! To me, that is
frightening.
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Posted by Lanny on 2/4/2003, 9:02 am, in reply to "Pastor Barnett speaks with love, concern, humility and
purpose."
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This is what happened in the hearings. At
the beginning some of the elders were 100% behind DB. The elders had
different ministries and therefore some had heard very little. However,
the more DB defended himself the more clear it became. This thing
manifested itself so clearly that there was no doubt as to what must be
done.
Lanny
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